
Leadership is complex, but it doesn’t have to be lonely.
The H2 Leadership Podcast is the place for leaders who want to be healthy and high impact.
Each week, you’ll be shaped by our coaching, our experience, and the voices of expert guests.
We ask deep questions and share practical tools to help you gain clarity, build courage, and create culture where leaders and teams thrive.
This is more than a podcast. It’s the most practical resource available to help you take your next right step toward healthy and high impact leadership.
Episodes

Monday Aug 05, 2024
Antiburnout: Why Every Leader Must Confront Pain
Monday Aug 05, 2024
Monday Aug 05, 2024
In this episode of the Say Forth Leadership Podcast, we delve into why every leader must confront pain. Pain is an inevitable part of being human and even more so as a leader. The more people you influence, the more pain you'll be exposed to.
This discussion unpacks how leaders often overlook their own pain while focusing on the next task or goal, much like a rock climber so focused on the climb that they ignore their injuries.
We emphasize the importance of acknowledging both macro and micro pains to move toward healing and connection. We also explore the role of friends, therapists, coaches, and fellow strugglers in navigating this journey.
By confronting pain head-on, leaders can foster deeper connections and healthier communities. Tune in to learn practical steps to manage pain and build supportive relationships.

Thursday Jul 25, 2024
AntiBurnout: Gaining momentum in the midst of change
Thursday Jul 25, 2024
Thursday Jul 25, 2024
- Change is a constant in life and leadership, and it is important to embrace it rather than resist it.
- Experiments are a powerful tool to navigate through change, as they allow us to test the future without pressurizing it.
- Clarity and awareness are essential before taking appropriate action in times of change.
- Small steps and experiments can help shift the needle and gain momentum in the midst of change.
- It is important to focus on what is within our responsibility and not try to control things that are outside of our control.
- "Experiments test the future without pressurizing it."
- "Experiments limit the pressure and increase our curiosity."
- "You can't try something new until you know where to free up space"

Thursday Jul 18, 2024
AntiBurnout: From Exhaustion to Replenishment
Thursday Jul 18, 2024
Thursday Jul 18, 2024
Welcome back to episode three of our Anti-Burnout Summer Series! This week, we tackle a phrase many leaders find all too familiar: "I'm so tired."
On this episode we dive into the different types of fatigue leaders face and the journey from exhaustion to replenishment. Discover practical strategies to identify and combat expected, extended, and extreme fatigue. Learn the importance of intentional replenishment cycles and how daily and weekly habits can transform your energy levels and the trajectory of of your leadership.
If you're feeling drained, this episode is your guide to finding renewed vitality and balance. Tune in and take the first step towards a lighter, more fulfilling leadership journey. #AntiBurnout #Leadership #Replenishment #PodcastSeries #SelfCare
Takeaways
Exhaustion and fatigue can lead to burnout and should not be ignored.
There are three types of fatigue: expected fatigue, extended fatigue, and extreme fatigue.
It is important to identify the level and source of fatigue, whether it is physical, mental, relational, emotional, or spiritual.
Creating a replenishment cycle with daily and weekly habits can help combat fatigue and replenish energy.
The Right Side Up Journal is a useful tool for self-reflection and accountability in maintaining a replenishment cycle.
Quotables
"I'm so tired. I am so tired."
"Exhaustion: The Obstacle to Replenishment"
"Energy leaks effortlessly, but replenishment requires intentionality."
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Tuesday Jul 16, 2024
Tuesday Jul 16, 2024
Tanner, the CEO of Every Home for Christ, shares his journey from rural Montana to leading a global ministry. He discusses the audacious mission of Every Home for Christ and the various ways they carry Christ to everyone and every place. Tanner also talks about his experience of taking over leadership from the legendary Dick Eastman and the challenges of succession. He emphasizes the importance of boundaries, play, and seeking support in maintaining health while traveling. Tanner shares his favorite cereal, guilty pleasure song, and a quote that inspires him. He concludes with a message of encouragement for those feeling discouraged.
Takeaways
Every Home for Christ has an audacious mission to carry Christ to everyone and every place.
Succession can be a challenging process, but intentional communication and trust-building are key.
Setting boundaries and prioritizing health, both physically and mentally, is crucial for leaders who travel frequently.
Play and humor can humanize leadership and strengthen relationships within a team.
Gratitude and taking small steps are important during difficult times.
Every Home for Christ's website (www.everyhome.org) is a great resource to learn more about their work.
Sound Bites
"I think getting good at saying no, really weighing out whether this is truly important or not."
"Play disarms and allows us to have relational connection."
"Listen, you're in good company. The world is a hard spot. I think everybody in the world at some point experiences some kind of suffering."

Friday Jul 12, 2024
AntiBurnout Summer Series: Finding Newness and Freshness When Feeling Stuck
Friday Jul 12, 2024
Friday Jul 12, 2024
- Changing pace, place, and perspective can help bring newness and freshness when feeling stuck.
- Mindset shifts are necessary to move from feeling stuck to being a designer of one's own life.
- Strategies for finding newness include getting away from technology, changing environments, and cultivating new relationships.
- Reflection and taking action are key to transforming information into meaningful change.
- "It's refreshing and it's just a different way to communicate important information."
- "Change of pace plus change of place equals change of perspective."
- "Being away from just instant information and supercomputers that fit in our pockets is probably one of the better ways that I can find newness."

Friday Jul 05, 2024
AntiBurnout Summer Series: Overwhelm and Clarity: Overcoming Obstacles
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Friday Jul 05, 2024
- The summer series is designed to provide a more transformational look at living and leading in a lighter way.
- Overwhelm is an obstacle that can be overcome through clarity.
- There are two types of overwhelm: positive overwhelm (having too many good things) and negative overwhelm (feeling burdened by responsibilities).
- The lies associated with overwhelm are the need for certainty and the belief that everything must be done by oneself.
- Taking action and seeking clarity are essential to overcoming overwhelm.
- Identify the sources of overwhelm in your life and take steps towards greater clarity.
- "When clarity goes up, overwhelm goes down."
- "Overwhelm is something that is standing between you and where you want to be."

Thursday Jun 20, 2024
Thursday Jun 20, 2024
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In episode, Dr. Tashion Macon takes us on a journey through her remarkable career in pop culture and positive psychology. Join us as she delves into her new book, Coming in Hot: A Blueprint for Black Women Setting the World Ablaze, and shares powerful insights on showing up as your greatest self.
About Dr. Tashion Macon
Dr.Tashion Macon is a trailblazer. Her professional experience lives at the intersections of brand marketing, pop-culture, philanthropy, and positive psychology.
Growing up in East St. Louis, IL, Dr. Macon’s traumatic and transformative experiences showed her that she could accomplish anything. Her life trajectory gives her the ability to authentically invite everyone she encounters to achieve their highest vibration.
Dr. Macon has helped iconic companies like Arista/LaFace Records, Interscope/Universal, NBC, T-Mobile, and Warner Brothers achieve their financial and marketing objectives, and she’s led mission-focused organizations like Akoin, Communi- ties In Schools, South Carolina Institutes of Information and Innovation, The Teaching Lab, The Weitz Foundation, Voice Vision Value, and Women’s Foundation of the South to fulfill their purpose. She uniquely understands how to strike – when the proverbial iron is HOT to maximize career-enhancing outcomes.
Her new book, Coming In Hot: A Blueprint For Black Women Setting The World Ablaze is a love letter to Black Women. Dr. Macon introduces her innovative “Hotlist”, a framework to support Black women as they count the costs and the coins to cultivate a career path that is as authentic and unique as they are.
A best-selling author, speaker, and member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated, Dr. Macon’s Coming in Hot offers Black women a thought-provoking and straight-talking guide for professional access, agency, and ascension – one borne of experience and steeped in wit and wisdom.
If you enjoyed this book and found the information useful, please help others find it by leaving a review on the site where you purchased it. Reviews are the most effective way to spread the word that this book brings value to others like you!
Sound Bites:
"Purpose does not need permission to be what it's born to be."
"Your title is something you rent, your talent is something you own."
"Bet on your own blaze, push all your chips in on that."
Key Takeaways:
Show up as your greatest self and cultivate a career that is uniquely yours.
Bring your essence and talent to everything you do.
Trust your unique design and bet on your own blaze.
Divine doors will open for you, even in times of discouragement.
Declare what you desire and follow the direction of divine discontent.
Connect with Dr. Tashion Macon
Website: https://www.tashionmacon.com/

Thursday Jun 13, 2024
Demystifying Sabbatical: A Journey of Rest and Reorientation
Thursday Jun 13, 2024
Thursday Jun 13, 2024
In this episode, Alan Briggs and Chad Lunsford demystify the concept of sabbatical and share their personal experiences. They discuss the importance of sabbatical for pastors and leaders, and how it can be a life-giving opportunity for rest, reflection, and reorientation.
They outline the three phases of a healthy sabbatical: prepare, experience, and reorient. The hosts emphasize the need for engagement and intentional decision-making during sabbatical, and the value of having a sabbatical coach to guide and support the process.
If you or someone you know are experiencing, planning or thinking about a sabbatical ingest this episode!
To pursue your free Breakthrough Sabbatical Coaching session head to www.stayforth.com/coaching
Takeaways
Sabbatical is a valuable opportunity for pastors and leaders to rest, reflect, and reorient.
There are three phases of a healthy sabbatical: prepare, experience, and reorient. Sabbatical is not an escape from life, but an engagement with deep personal and relational matters.
Having a sabbatical coach can provide guidance and support throughout the sabbatical process.
Quotables
"We want to demystify sabbatical."
"I've experienced sabbatical being incredibly life-giving opportunity and gift."
"Sabbatical is different for each person."
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