
Leadership is complex, but it doesn’t have to be lonely.
The H2 Leadership Podcast is the place for leaders who want to be healthy and high impact.
Each week, you’ll be shaped by our coaching, our experience, and the voices of expert guests.
We ask deep questions and share practical tools to help you gain clarity, build courage, and create culture where leaders and teams thrive.
This is more than a podcast. It’s the most practical resource available to help you take your next right step toward healthy and high impact leadership.
Leadership is complex, but it doesn’t have to be lonely.
The H2 Leadership Podcast is the place for leaders who want to be healthy and high impact.
Each week, you’ll be shaped by our coaching, our experience, and the voices of expert guests.
We ask deep questions and share practical tools to help you gain clarity, build courage, and create culture where leaders and teams thrive.
This is more than a podcast. It’s the most practical resource available to help you take your next right step toward healthy and high impact leadership.
Episodes

Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
174 - Joe Pine ”The Experience Economy”
Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
Tuesday Feb 16, 2021
No matter what space you find yourself leading (business or otherwise), what you do is no longer enough to reach people. The landscape is quickly changing as people want more experiential and relational connections when it comes to how they interact with organizations.
So how do you lead in the experience economy?
On today's episode, Alan and Joe Pine, co author of The Experience Economy talk about why experiences are key to engaging people and why goods and services are no longer enough.
About Joe Pine
Co-author of The Experience Economy, Joseph Pine II is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and management advisor to Fortune 500 companies and entrepreneurial start-ups alike.
In 2020 Mr. Pine and his partner James H. Gilmore re-released in hardcover The Experience Economy: Competing for Customer Time, Attention, and Money featuring an all-new Preview to their best-selling 1999 book The Experience Economy: Work Is Theatre & Every Business a Stage. The book demonstrates how goods and services are no longer enough; what companies must offer today are experiences – memorable events that engage each customer in an inherently personal way. It further shows that in today’s Experience Economy companies now compete against the world for the time, attention, and money of individual customers. The Experience Economy has been published in fifteen languages and was named one of the 100 best business books of all time by 800ceoread (now Porchlight).
Mr. Pine also co-wrote Infinite Possibility: Creating Customer Value on the Digital Frontier with Kim Korn, Authenticity: What Consumers Really Want with Mr. Gilmore in 2007, and in 1993 published his first book, the award-winning Mass Customization: The New Frontier in Business Competition. Each book details Mr. Pine's breakthrough thinking as he has accurately charted many structural shifts -- from individualizing goods to today’s focus on customer experiences and many other changes in the economy and consumer sensibility.
The economic competitive reality of the future is fast-paced change. Mr. Pine helps clients design strategies to leverage these new economic opportunities and create experiences that drive revenue.
Since revolutionizing the way we should approach and think about business with The Experience Economy, Joseph Pine has continued to be at the forefront as a thought leader. In his speaking and teaching activities, Mr. Pine has addressed the World Economic Forum, the original TED conference, and the Consumer Electronics Show. A former Visiting Scholar with the MIT Design Lab, he is currently a Lecturer with the Columbia University School of Professional Studies, and has also taught at Penn State, Duke Corporate Education, the University of Minnesota, UCLA's Anderson Graduate School of Management, and the Harvard Design School. He serves on the editorial boards of Strategy & Leadership and Strategic Direction and is a Senior Fellow with both the Design Futures Council and the European Centre for the Experience Economy, which he co-founded.
Mr. Pine's experiences prior to co-founding Strategic Horizons include holding a variety of technical and managerial positions with IBM.
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Thursday Feb 11, 2021
173 - Benjamin Windle ”Millennials and the Church”
Thursday Feb 11, 2021
Thursday Feb 11, 2021
Millennial. Elder Millennial. Zennial. Those are all terms that describe an interesting generation of individuals that grew up in the analogue era, but experienced the shift to digital era. How do we care for and raise up millennials?
On today's episode, Alan and Author, Pastor, and life strategist, Benjamin Windle talk about what Millennials are and are not looking for in the Church.
If there is one thing you do today it should be to listen to this podcast episode.
About Benjamin
“Many years ago, I made a robust life decision: instead of criticising the state of the world, I decided to engage with the conversation. I wanted to be part of the solution.
That’s what I have been doing for the last 20 years—giving my life to play a part in helping others.”
Benjamin is married to his high school sweetheart, Cindi. They have 3 sons and a cavoodle (Romeo).
Benjamin’s entrepreneurial spark has helped him start and develop multiple businesses, and complete his Masters in Business.
In their early twenties, Benjamin and Cindi Windle moved to the City of Roses—Portland, Oregon. In 2009, they returned to Australia, where they have continued both their business and ministry endeavours. As an expression of their passion to give back to the community and inspire people to become all they were created to be, they pioneered Lifeplace.
His work helping churches develop Generational Intelligence in reaching Millennials and Gen Z has grown into a range of resources, coaching, and speaking.
His recent release, “Eight Innovations to Leading Millennials”, was featured globally by the Hillsong Network and reached the #1 Bestseller list on Amazon in 2 categories.
Benjamin’s ‘Life Minute’ radio program brings 60 seconds of life skills to an estimated audience of one million listeners.
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8 Innovations to Leading Millennials
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Tuesday Feb 09, 2021
172 - Dale Kreienkamp ”Caring for the unemployed”
Tuesday Feb 09, 2021
Tuesday Feb 09, 2021
Seasons of transition are difficult especially when they are the result of loss. While navigating seasons of transition can be difficult, it is possible to thrive through them.
On today's episode of the podcast, Alan and Dale kreienkamp, president an ceo of Thriving Through Transitions, talk about what people are experiencing who are unemployed and how to better care for them.
This is an eye opening conversation.
About Dale
Dale is the President & CEO of Thriving Through Transitions, a consultancy focused on helping individuals and organizations successfully navigate difficult, personal and professional, transitions and become better through the process. His professional background includes over 40+ years as a Human Resources Executive and Consultant, coaching and guiding leaders.

Thursday Feb 04, 2021
171 - Tod Bolsinger ”Tempered Resilience; strength and flexibility”
Thursday Feb 04, 2021
Thursday Feb 04, 2021
Would you consider yourself a resilient leader? What about a tempered, resilient leader?
On today's episode, Alan and Tod Bolsinger, author of Tempered Resilience: How Leaders Are Formed in the Crucible of Change explore the combination of strength and flexibility needed to lead in this season
Tod Bolsinger (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a speaker, executive coach, former pastor, and author who serves as associate professor of leadership formation and senior fellow for the De Pree Center for Leadership at Fuller Seminary. He is the author of Canoeing the Mountains, which was named Outreach Magazine Resource of the Year in Pastoral Leadership, as well as the Christianity Today Award of Merit recipient It Takes a Church to Raise a Christian.
A frequent speaker and consultant, he serves as an executive coach for corporate, nonprofit, educational, and church organizations in transformational leadership. For seventeen years, he was the senior pastor of San Clemente Presbyterian Church in San Clemente, California, after serving for ten years at First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood. Tod and his wife, Beth, have two children.
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Tuesday Feb 02, 2021
170 - Alan and Jonathan ”Don’t treat 2021 like a rebound relationship”
Tuesday Feb 02, 2021
Tuesday Feb 02, 2021
We have officially checked the complete box on 1 month of 2021. You made it!
Many of you are still mapping out the remainder of the year, and well, generally trying to figure out how to succeed in 2021. Don't make 2021 a rebound relationship.
This conversation originally aired over on The Everyday Marketer Podcast which is curated by our sister company High Touch Marketing.
Alan and Jonathan have a practical conversation about all things 2021, how to succeed where it matters, questions you should be asking, and most importantly, how to grow your brand EVERY SINGLE DAY in 2021 and beyond.
While this conversation is through a marketing/branding lens, the principles directly apply to growing your leadership from a posture of health in 2021 and beyond so we hope you enjoy!
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Thursday Jan 28, 2021
169 - Anthony Skinner & Jake Smith ”Heart Soul Mind Strength”
Thursday Jan 28, 2021
Thursday Jan 28, 2021
On a recent Stay Forth Go Forth experience Alan sat down with Anthony Skinner and Jake Smith about our spiritual anatomy, or our hear, soul, mind, and strength.
Anthony and Jake created an app called the Shemah Way. As a tool to walk people on a guided pathway to discover more with God, others, and themselves.
If you want to be more grounded in your leadership and present with God and those you lead then listen to this conversation.
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Right Side Up Journal 2nd edition

Tuesday Jan 26, 2021
168 - Sandeep Maity ”From poverty to purpose”
Tuesday Jan 26, 2021
Tuesday Jan 26, 2021
Announcement!
With the same level of intentionality as the first edition, the second edition has been upgraded with:
- Tools
- Descriptions
- Blank pages
- More thought-provoking questions and quotes
- And more.
With a degree in hospitality management, Sandeep previously worked as a travel coordinator for a soccer club.
Raised in extreme poverty and, at times, living homeless on the streets, Sandeep’s childhood in Kolkata was marked with great sorrow, hopelessness and despair. Often going without food, clothing and shelter, he felt unlovable and forgotten. When he was 7 years old, he was introduced to Compassion and its child development program at a local church — and that’s when everything began to change for him. Through the practical support he received and the loving encouragement from his sponsors, hope broke through the darkness and Sandeep discovered God’s matchless love. Being sponsored through Compassion made it possible for him to receive an education and a university degree, through which he began dreaming of a new future for himself and his family.
Sandeep is honored to continue to partner with Compassion as an International Trip Leader. He leads International trips for Compassion International and is very passionate about pastoral and discipleship training in India. What a gift to help change others’ lives through the organization that changed his own life! He courageously shares his personal story to infuse hope in others who feel forgotten, shine light on the challenges of poverty, and mobilize difference-makers.
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Thursday Jan 21, 2021
167 - The Exodus Road ”Set the prisoners free!”
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
On today's episode, Alan is Joined by the Exodus Road for a very real and much needed conversation about the topic of Human Trafficking and Sex Slavery.
About The Exodus Road
We’re on a mission to find and free them.
PREVENTION
Raising awareness and empowering the vulnerable.
INTERVENTION
Bringing rescue to sons and daughters alongside local police. Our primary expertise lies in empowering nationals to gather evidence of human trafficking, and facilitate rescue missions with local police. Since 2011, we have provided local law enforcement, governments, and NGOs with technology, investigative support, funding or training to enhance their ability to deliver justice in their own countries. We have encouraged effective collaboration among organizations fighting slavery while working within national legal systems to effectively change criminal activity by making human trafficking a more dangerous crime.
AFTERCARE
The first step in the journey of restoration. The Exodus Road employs social workers as an integral part of our Search + Rescue teams in each country where we work. In the critical hours after a rescue, our social workers are present to care for survivors in crucial ways. We also support local, private aftercare shelters that specialize in caring for human trafficking victims.
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