
Leadership is complex, but it doesn’t have to be lonely.
The H2 Leadership Podcast is the place for leaders who want to be healthy and high impact.
Each week, you’ll be shaped by our coaching, our experience, and the voices of expert guests.
We ask deep questions and share practical tools to help you gain clarity, build courage, and create culture where leaders and teams thrive.
This is more than a podcast. It’s the most practical resource available to help you take your next right step toward healthy and high impact leadership.
Episodes

Thursday May 16, 2024
The Six Types of Working Genius Part 1; With Patrick Lencioni
Thursday May 16, 2024
Thursday May 16, 2024
On this episode, Alan Interviews legendary author and organizational consultant Pat Lencioni about The Working Genius assessment and message. We are honored to have The Working Genius as a sponsor for this podcast. In this episode which is a two part mini series, we delve into what The Working Genius is and how to understand the framework. Go take the assessment at WorkingGenius.com. If you would like Alan to lead a team training to incorporate this assessment into your team you can get more information by emailing us at hello@stayforth.com
About Pat Lencioni
Pat is one of the founders of The Table Group and is the pioneer of the organizational health movement. He is the author of 13 books, which have sold over 8 million copies and been translated into more than 30 languages.
As President of the Table Group, Pat spends his time speaking and writing about leadership, teamwork, and organizational health and consulting with executives and their teams.
Prior to founding the firm in 1997, Pat worked at Bain & Company, Oracle Corporation and Sybase. Pat lives in the Bay Area with his wife and four boys.
Takeaways
Organizational health is important for avoiding burnout and creating healthy cultures.
The six types of working genius are wonder, invention, discernment, galvanizing, enablement, and tenacity.
Wonderers ask questions and ponder new ideas, while inventors come up with new ideas and solutions.
Discerners evaluate ideas and have great pattern recognition instinct.
Galvanizers rally the troops and inspire others, while enablers answer the call for help and support.
Tenacious individuals plow through obstacles and finish tasks.
Both disruptive and responsive geniuses are needed in a team.
IGs (Invention and Galvanizing) are naturally excited about new ideas and enjoy sharing them.
IDs (Invention and Discernment) evaluate and edit ideas as they come up with them.
Understanding and celebrating each other's geniuses can lead to a more productive and joyful team.
An ideal day for an ID might involve coming up with new ideas and having coaching conversations.
An ideal day for an IG might involve launching new ideas and getting people excited about them.

Thursday May 09, 2024
Manhood redefined, rites of passage and sages; With Chris Bruno
Thursday May 09, 2024
Thursday May 09, 2024
Alan hosts a necessary conversation with his friend, Chris Bruno. Chris is a therapist and author, but in this episode he talks more about being a dad and a sage that is helping to restore mens hearts. Chris is a two time guest so be sure to go back and listen to episode 326 with Chris
About Chris
Chris received a master of arts in speech from Northwestern University and a master of arts in counseling psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. He is the co-founder and CEO of Restoration Project (restorationproject.net), a ministry devoted to helping men recover their hearts by healing their wounds, knowing God, and restoring the world. He is a licensed professional counselor, and the founder and CEO of ReStory® Counseling (restory.life), leading a diverse and collaborative team of Storywork counselors around the country.
Chris has been married to Beth for 27 years and they have three mostly adult children. After spending the better part of a decade in missions in the Near East, they settled in his home state of Colorado. But their love for travel permeates their home and dinnertime conversations and a good adventure is always in the works.
Connect with Chris

Friday May 03, 2024
AntiBurnout Part 4: Practices for the climb
Friday May 03, 2024
Friday May 03, 2024
- Constant learning is essential for leaders to stay at or above the curve in a time of high change.
- Viewing limits as a gift and living within one's unique design can bring freedom and fulfillment.
- Cultivating empowerment rather than dependency in teams leads to greater impact and growth.
- Going slow and avoiding rushing through life allows for greater presence and enjoyment of the present moment.
- "Leaders are readers."
- "Don't just feedback, feed forward."
- "Go slow or go fast, but don't rush."
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Thursday Apr 25, 2024
AntiBurnout Part 3: Shifts to lighten the load
Thursday Apr 25, 2024
Thursday Apr 25, 2024
In this episode, Stay Forth coach Chad Lunsford flips the mic on Alan and interviews him on part 3 of our AntiBurnout series "Shifts to lighten the load". This episode is equal parts honest and helpful.
They discuss important shifts leaders must make if they want to avoid burning out. The conversation touches on the six types of working genius and the power of leaning into one's natural strengths. This episode provides practical insights and strategies for leaders to avoid burnout and lead with purpose.
These shifts are important for leaders to make in order to be effective and impactful in their roles. The conversation emphasizes the need for leaders to have clarity, prioritize their tasks, and be intentional in their decision-making. It also highlights the importance of developing others and being effective with people rather than just being efficient.
Takeaways
Shifting from reactive to proactive leadership brings freedom and allows for intentional living.
Investing energy in areas that bring fulfillment and multiply impact is more valuable than managing time.
Understanding and leaning into one's natural strengths can lead to greater fulfillment and effectiveness in leadership.
Living proactively and investing energy in the right areas can help leaders avoid burnout and lead with purpose. Leaders must have clarity in order to be effective.
Prioritizing tasks and focusing on priorities rather than being in triage mode is crucial for leaders.
Leaders should shift from intuitive thinking to intentional decision-making.
Developing others and being effective with people is essential for leaders.
Efficiency is important, but effectiveness with people should be prioritized.
From Confusion to Clarity: The Importance of Having Clarity as a Leader
Quotables
"Now I find myself having greater impact and somehow putting in less output."
"We cannot design our lives when we are reacting to them."
"The currency of leadership is energy."
"Leaders must have clarity."
"The first job of a leader is to define reality."
"Clarity brings confidence."

Thursday Apr 18, 2024
AntiBurnout Part 2: Obstacles and Opportunities For The Climb
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
Thursday Apr 18, 2024
Alan and Jonathan discuss the major obstacles leaders face and the crucial opportunities that they must take advantage of when seeking to live and lead from a posture of health.
Grab your copy of AntiBurnout here: https://bit.ly/3VXiVz9
Takeaways
The greatest obstacles we face as leaders can lead to the greatest opportunities if we are resilient and push through them.
Living a 'whelmed' life means living at our capacity and avoiding both underwhelm and overwhelm.
Experiments and prototypes are vital for finding our way to open new doors and close others.
Pain is an invitation to seek connection with others who understand our struggles.
Disappointment can be an opportunity for growth and learning when we name the gap between our expectations and reality.
Resistance is a normal part of shaping the future, and movement is the key to overcoming it.
Cynicism can be overcome by cultivating curiosity and a mindset of possibility.
Exhaustion should be addressed through intentional replenishment of what has been depleted.
Change requires experimentation and prototyping to test new ideas and approaches.
Overwhelm can be reduced by seeking clarity and focusing on the present moment.
Quotables
"The greatest obstacles you face as a leader can lead to the greatest opportunities you will have."
"Change yields loss before yields opportunity."
"A whelmed life is a good life. A whelmed life is a full life."

Friday Apr 12, 2024
AntiBurnout Series Episode 1: Understanding the Burnout Epidemic
Friday Apr 12, 2024
Friday Apr 12, 2024
- Burnout is a widespread issue that affects leaders in various industries and sectors.
- Prioritizing health and well-being is essential for preventing and recovering from burnout.
- Cultural factors, such as the emphasis on work and busyness, contribute to the burnout epidemic.
- Living in an age of high change and fear adds to the challenges of avoiding burnout.
- Becoming a healthy and whole leader enables greater impact and long-term sustainability.
- "We're in the midst of a burnout epidemic."
- "We cannot give what we do not have."
- "We must fight for a lighter way to live and lead."
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Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Made For More; With Chad Lunsford
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Thursday Apr 04, 2024

Thursday Mar 28, 2024
How is cynicism impacting us? With J.R. Briggs
Thursday Mar 28, 2024
Thursday Mar 28, 2024
Dr. J.R. Briggs lives with a clear and focused calling: to serve, guide, and equip hungry leaders who want to grow healthier and thrive. In 2011, he started Kairos Partnerships, an organization committed to serving hungry kingdom leaders through leadership coaching, consulting, speaking, and teaching. He loves investing in the KP team of equippers so Kairos Partnerships can invest in all leaders who desire care and equipping.
For more than 15 years, J.R. served in pastoral roles in mega-churches, church plants, and house church networks. Since starting Kairos Partnerships, he has served and invested in a wide variety of leaders, including business owners, pastors, university administrators, non-profit directors, entrepreneurs, attorneys, Blackhawk army helicopter operators, U.S. Olympic athletes, and Division I college coaches.
In addition to coaching leaders and consulting with businesses, organizations, universities, and non-profits, he also speaks and teaches.
He has taught in higher education since 2017. Currently, he serves as a faculty mentor for Kairos University and as a guest instructor at Friends University in the Masters of Arts in Spiritual Formation and Leadership program. He has guest lectured, taught, and spoken at over a dozen colleges, universities, and seminaries around the U.S.
He also serves as the Director of Leadership & Congregational Formation for The Ecclesia Network and as a National Trainer and Strategist for Fresh Expressions U.S.
He has written or co-written thirteen books on a wide variety of topics and served as one of the contributors to the Abide Bible. He has written over 50 published articles, both online and in print, with Christianity Today, Huffington Post, Preaching Today, American Bible Society, N.T. Wright Online, Missio Alliance, Boundless.org and Relevant Magazine, and several others.
He hosts the Resilient Leaders podcast, a weekly podcast equipping leaders in a wide variety of backgrounds to grow in their resilience and health.
He serves on the Board of Directors for Jerusalem University College and the Board of Advisors for the Institute for Bible Reading.
J.R. loves swimming, kayaking, hiking, reading, traveling to new places, eating fish tacos, and watching the Philadelphia Phillies.
He and his wife Megan have been married for over 21 years and have two teenage sons, Carter and Bennett. They live in Lansdale, PA in the greater Philadelphia area.
- Cynicism is a prevalent issue in our culture and can erode trust and hope.
- Leaders are particularly susceptible to cynicism and must guard against it.
- Cynicism is different from skepticism, as it assumes a closed-minded posture.
- During election season, leaders need to be mindful of cynicism and strive to bring hope.
- Practices such as gratitude, giving others the benefit of the doubt, and surrounding oneself with hopeful people can help guard against cynicism.
